Friday, October 28, 2011

Autumn Marriage of 1814, the 111th Carnival Of Genealogy

CABS for Reflections From the Fence

The subject of the 111th Carnival of Genealogy is Autumn Weddings, featuring weddings that took place in the autumn months of September, October, or November.  Thanks to Jasia at Creative Gene for sponsoring the COG.

In early September of 1814 in Thornbury, Devonshire, England Man's 3rd great grandparents were married.  Richard Lashbrook took as his bride Ann Newcombe.  The parentage of both has been researched, there are suggested lineages for Richard and Ann, by virtue of some baptismal records.  I have never added the names of the possible parents to my data base, I am not sure I will ever find the documentation or proof that will make me comfortable enough to add them.

I do have a copy of the marriage record of Richard and Ann, which I obtained in person from the Devon Record Office in Exeter England.  They have clearly stamped on the side of the document "Further reproduction prohibited", so I am not going to publish an image of that record here. Here is the best transcription I can do, the copy I have is extremely hard to read.  The staff at the Devon Record Office was wonderful, but, the best copy they could make me was marginal at best, leaving several of the words and names illegible.

Richard Lashbrook of this Parish
and Ann Newcombe, a resident of this Parish
were married in this church by Banns with consent of
this sixth Day of
September in the Year One thousand eight hundred and fourteen.
By me Roger Kingdon, Clerk
This marriage was solemnized between us: Richard Lashbrook
The mark X of Ann Newcombe
In the Presence of The mark X of ?? Lashbrook
The mark of X of ????
No 3

During that visit to Devonshire we also had the distinct pleasure of meeting another Lashbrook descendant, George Lashbrook, now deceased.  George was quite the character and took us for a Lashbrook tour of Devonshire.  George actually took us to the very church where Richard and Ann were married.  Their 5th child would be baptized in this very same church some 8 years later.

Below: St Peter's Church Thornbury Devon England, the records from this church contain the marriage record of Richard Lashbrook and Ann Newcombe.

And, inside:

The church is not heated, nor does it have power for lighting.  The baptismal font is from the Norman time frame, and was still in use when we visited in 1999.

Six months later, almost to the day, according to the records and data I have gathered on Richard and Ann and their family, their first son, John was born.  There would  be 10 children born and baptized in Devonshire, in three different churches.  About 1830 they would leave Devonshire and England and cross the pond.  It is family tradition that they had another 4 children in America.  Despite hours of research I have never found any evidence of the last two, Jacob and Elizabeth.  I have not done a count of Richard and Ann's descendants, but, recently when I did a descendant list from my data base it was 76 pages long, one line per person.

And to think, it all started at an autumn wedding in 1814.

* I have no photos of Richard or Ann Lashbrook even though both lived past 1880.  I believe in my heart that they had their photos taken, but, I have never found one.  I continue to hope that someday - - -


PalmsRV said...

Really enjoyed the view from inside the church.

Susan Clark said...

76 pages? Wow. Words fail me.

Kathy Reed said...

Amazing research. I was with a genealogy friend today and he was discussing known errors on family trees posted on the web. Based on that discussion, it is refreshing to see this post and know that you have not included people in your tree that you've not been able to "prove".

Carol said...

Thanks all. Kathy, In this case the proofs are so weak that I am not tempted to include them in my data base.

I do have another line or two, one in particular, that I have included on my data base, with very LONG and LOUD disclaimers and warnings in my notes that this is still unproven. I keep researching the other siblings in hope that something will turn up. But, it does make me nervous.

That said, I have not put any of this on the web, since I am not sure, and since there is at least one error in the work which I need to correct. Trees on the web with known errors are a huge problem, I will not knowingly contribute to that problem.

Thanks for reading.

Kristin said...

We never know what we've started when we start a family. 76 pages of descendents so far, wow!

Barbara Poole said...

I love the photo of the church, it's got a moody feel to it. I'm another person amazed at your 76 page report. Good work.

Jasia said...

I love the photos. The church is just beautiful. You can feel the history emanating from those walls. I envy you that you had the opportunity to visit the church where Man's family worshiped and were married. And I'm so glad you shared it all with us in the COG. :-)

Linda Gartz said...

You win for the oldest wedding recorded in this Carnival. How great that you found this document. It seems odd it can't be shown -- by a descendent! But your transcription would undoubtedly be needed anyway. But 76 single-lined pages! That's a prolific family. Congratulations!

Carol said...

Thanks Jasia. We visited 3 churches in the same small area of Devonshire that day, all 3 had records for Richard and Ann and their children. We were able to just walk right into 2 of the 3. It was surreal and wonderful.

Really Linda Gartz, the oldest marriage, OOO, wow. That is kinda neat. I need to jump over and read the rest of the entries for the COG. SOON! Thanks for reading and sharing that tidbit with me. Makes me smile!

Nancy said...

You've gone back so many years! I love the photos of the church. It is a beautiful place.