Showing posts with label Margaret Catherine Haley. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Margaret Catherine Haley. Show all posts

Saturday, February 11, 2017

William Fenton, The Father, The Son, Which is Which? Photo Faceoff

Copyright 2017, CABS for Reflections From the Fence

William Franklin Fenton (referred here as Sr.) and his wife Margaret Catherine Haley were married in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada on May 25, 1860.

William Franklin Fenton (referred to here as Jr.) was born June 21, 1861 in Chebogue, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada.  As a young man, William (Jr.)  married a lady named Fannie Hurlburt and had 4 children.  Fannie died in 1898 and in 1900 William married Ida May Jarvis.  William (Jr.) and Ida had 5 children.

When we have  a son and a father with basically the same name, it can be easy to confuse the two in records.  

Now, we need to state right here, that to our best knowledge, William (Sr.), Margaret Haley, William (Jr.). and all the rest of William (Sr.) and Margaret's children were all white.  Ida May Jarvis, however, was not.  She was black and I have heard, but, never have been able to establish/prove it, that she may have had Indian heritage as well.

I can tell you from my research, and my interaction with family members of William (Jr.) and Ida's descendants and descendants of William (Sr.) and Margaret other sons and daughters, that racism was healthy in Nova Scotia in 1900.  I have heard stories (again, family stories, not provable via documents) that after William (Jr.) married Ida he was "cut off" from his family.  Siblings that wanted to visit would have to sneak over to William (Jr.)'s home.

There are facts I can "prove".  For example, I can tell you and prove that when William (Sr.) passed, the informant on his death certificate was William (Jr.).  It is very interesting to note that William (Sr.)'s obituary does not mention William (Jr.).  William (Sr.)'s obituary reads in part:

"Mr. Fenton, besides the daughter mentioned, leaves two others, Mrs. Emma Vickery and Mrs. Clara Huskins in Massachusetts, the latter with Mrs. Robert Fenton arrived by the Prince George this morning to attend the funeral; also one son George, a painter and decorator with R. K. Smith."

Ten years before William (Sr.) died one of his daughter's passed.  Her obituary reads in part, you will note, there is no mention of William (Jr.).

"She leaves a husband and four small children to mourn the loss of a devoted wife and mother.  She is also survived by her father, Mr. William Fenton, two brothers, George and Robert; and three sisters: Mrs. John Vickery, Mrs. Oscar Vickery, and Mrs. Clara Huskins."

The fact that William (Jr.) was ostracized by his family seems to have carried down in area of family photos as well. Even after researching this clan for well over 25 years, I have had no "verified" photo of William (Jr.).  All the photos you will see in this post came from other family members, Man and I had no Fenton ancestral photos.

Due to the kindness of other family members, I have these, which most family and family researchers of the Fenton clan agree are William (Sr.)  Let's note here that William (Sr.) was born in 1833 and died in 1922. And, let's consider those dates in reference to the photos and the clothing.  Let's call this photo # 1.


On the back of photo # 1 (copy of a photo, actually) was written in bold print :  Grandpa Fenton, Marion's Mother's Father.  Marion is Marion Vickery, her mother is Emma Stella Fenton.  Emma's father is William Franklin Fenton (Sr.).  On other photos in same group,it is written, "Marion's inscription on back",  indicating that the identifications came from Marion Vickery.

I also have this photo, also identified as William Fenton (Sr), identification provided by a great-granddaughter. This is photo # 2.  Supposedly, this is the same man as is in photo # 1.  There is, in my opinion, a resemblance, so I will accept this as being William (Sr.)


We have another photo of what appears to be the William in photo # 2.  Family has stated this is William (Sr.) and his Christie grandchildren.  This to me appears to be the same man.  Here he is in photo # 3.


Last summer Man and I traveled to Nova Scotia, specifically to research the Fenton clan and to see where they lived, loved, were born, died and were buried.  Neither of us had ever been.  It was a remarkable trip.  While there we were able to spend a few hours with descendants of William (Jr.) and his second wife, Ida.  The fact that we were able to meet up with this part of the family was a small miracle.  Man and I made the trip on a whim, with very little planning.  I did not make any attempts to contact the few family members I had email addresses for before we left. But, at a campground we stopped at along the way, we actually met some distant kin.  It was one of those "the manager of the campground had an employee who was the sister of a bride of one of the Fenton men." Far out, eh??

While visiting two Fenton elders Man noticed a 8 X 10 piece of paper with the photos of 5 men printed and identified. It was one of those kismet moments in research.  He asked and was graciously granted permission to take a cell phone photo of that sheet of paper.

Below are 3 of the men, the other two have been edited out since they are both still living. This is photo # 4.



You will note that the photo on the left side of this group is the same as the one I have already shown in Photo # 1 above. It is identified as William (Sr.) dates of birth and death the same as I have indicated.

In the middle, this man is also identified as William. From the dates of death and birth this is William (Jr.), note the dates agree with my research and documentation I have obtained.

The man to the right is the son of William (Jr.) and Ida.

Tonight, when working on my consolidation project, I re-discovered a photo, with names/identities.  You will note the second man from the left is the same man that is identified as William (Jr.) in photo # 4.  

This is photo # 5.


The people identified in this photo # 5 were named as: George Fenton, William Fenton, Sr., Emma Fenton Vickery, Annie Fenton Vickery, John Vickery.  This photo has been dated as 1921, place, Rockville, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada.

Wait!  Hold everything.

Photo # 4 he is William (Jr.)

Photo # 5 he is William (Sr.)

I have stared at these photos for years, on and off, I revisit, I stare, my eyes cross, and I move on to something else. And, return again at some point, repeat for years and years.

There are strong family resemblances, eh??  Between all these Williams.

That's why it is so difficult.

Tonight, my opinion is that # 1 is William (Sr.)

# 2 - - I'll say he is also William (Sr.), especially when we compare it to # 3, which has been identified by family members.

# 4, is William (Jr.), as is of course, # 5, since that is the same photo, just cropped a bit.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

And, ohhhhh, yea, photo # 5 seems to disprove the rumor/family story that siblings had to sneak off to see William (Jr.) after his marriage to Ida.  Except, for that interesting/questionable identification the William in this photo as William (Sr.) 

What tangled webs were woven.  



* William (Jr.) and his first wife, Fannie Hurburt, are Man's great-grandparents.  William Henry Fenton, see photo # 4, was Man's grandmother's half brother.

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Monday, April 19, 2010

Relatively Speaking, Cousins That Blog, Man Has Cousins That Blog Too

Leah of the Internet Genealogist and Heather Wilkinson Rojo of Nutfield Genealogy are related to Man, ok, it is distant, but cousins are cousins, and finding links because you are a blogger is just pure fun!  Leah and Heather have been cooperating on some posts and having a great time of it.  The stories are wonderful, I urge you to have a look at their blogs and enjoy the read.

In the meantime, I thought I would use today's Relatively Speaking, Cousins That Blog issue to post Man's lineage back through to the Haley connections.  I mean, they are cousins after all, and 2 out of the 3 blog!  LOL

I have color coded the direct lines and have used Ahnentafel numbering.

1. Man

2. Arthur Norman Stevens Jr.: born on July 1, 1919 in Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan; married on May 24, 1947 in Calvary Lutheran Church, Lincoln Park, Wayne County, Michigan; died on April 13, 1979 in Taylor, Wayne County, Michigan.

3. Man's mother

4. Archibald Norman (Archie) Lashbrook: born on April 9, 1879 in Holt Township, Fillmore County, Minnesota; married on May 20, 1918 in Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio; died on July 13, 1952 in Wyandotte, Wayne County, Michigan.

5. Edna May Fenton: born on March 20, 1888 in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada; died on July 3, 1954 in Eloise, Wayne County, Michigan.

10. William Franklin Fenton: born on June 21, 1861 in Chebogue, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada; married on November 8, 1883 in Salem, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada; died on March 14, 1939 in Yarmouth, Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia, Canada.

11. Fannie Hurlburt: born about 1865 in Tusket Lakes, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada; died on December 12, 1898 in Arcadia, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada.

20. William Franklin Fenton: born on July 5, 1833 in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada; married on May 25, 1860 in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada; died on March 4, 1922 in Rockville, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada.

21. Margaret Catherine Haley: born on August 27, 1838 in Nova Scotia, Canada; died on January 18, 1903 in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada.

42. John Haley II: born on February 2, 1805 in Chebogue, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada; married in 1828.

43. Mary Owen.

84. Comfort Haley: born in 1754 in Brimfield, Hampden County, Massachusetts; married in December 1795; died on May 13, 1821.

85. Hannah Ellis: born on February 4, 1765 in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada; died on January 17, 1862.

168. Ebenezer Haley: born in 1709 in Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts; married in 1748 in Brimfield, Hampden County, Massachusetts; died on February 14, 1777 in at sea.

169. Grace Bullen: born on October 13, 1727 in Brimfield, Hampden County, Massachusetts; died about 1790.

Leah's, Heather's and Man's common ancestor is Comfort Haley, born 1754.



By the way Leah and Heather, that Hawaii connection, Man's grandfather, well, ya, he grew up in Kauai, German laborer family, sugar plantations.  Great grandparents and children arrived Lihue in 1888, lived there during the overthrow of Queen Lili'uokalani in 1893.  Man's great-grandfather, the patriarch of this line, in fact, was awarded the "Special Rights of Citizenship" certificate in 1894.  The way I understand it, this document did not grant naturalization, however, I suspect that the family thought it did make them naturalized citizens of the United States.

Anyone got those oooooeeeee genie moment chills yet??



*Graphics courtesy of VintageKin.com  (Link not functional in February of 2019)

Copyright 2010, CABS for Reflections From the Fence

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Sunday, July 5, 2009

Ancestor Birthday Celebrations, William Franklin Fenton

William Franklin Fenton is the great great grandfather of Man. He was born July 5, 1833, reportedly in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. He died in Rockville, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia on March 4, 1922. William was a farmer, sailor and fisherman. William married Margaret Catherine Haley on May 25, 1850 in Yarmouth, Nova Scotia. William and Margaret had 9 children, William Franklin, Annie Louise, Charles Henry, Emma Stella, John Albert Haley, Clara Irene, George Edmond, Julia Agnes, and Robert Crowell.


Most likely the most dramatic event of William’s life was the loss of two of his sons on the same day, May 7, 1882. Both Charles Henry and John Albert Haley died that day in a tragic accident that their older brother managed to escape. A report of this accident is found in “Yarmouth past and present; a book of reminiscences”, by J Murray Lawson, Publisher: Yarmouth, N.S. [Printed at the Yarmouth herald Office] 1902, the report reads:

"On Saturday evening, May 6th, a lobster smack, belonging to Capt. William McDonnell, of Argyle, and commanded by Capt. William Fenton, came to anchor in Chebogue Harbor. Capt. Fenton took the boat and went ashore, leaving a boy named Thomas Greene in the schooner. On Sunday Capt. Fenton's three sons William, about 21 years old; Charles, 16 years, and John, 14 years embarked in a boat to bring Greene ashore. The boat capsized a few moments afterwards, and all were drowned except William, who clung to the bottom of the boat until she drifted ashore, where he laid for sometime unconscious. The body of Charles Fenton was subsequently recovered about 3/4 of a mile from where the accident happened."

William is buried at the Chebogue Town Point Cemetery, Chebogue, Yarmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada, as is his wife, Margaret. I have no photo of any headstone, hope to some day.

Man’s great grandfather was William Franklin Fenton, the only person to survive this boating tragedy.


* Photo identified to be William Franklin Fenton (the elder), courtesy of Karen Fenton, Man's second cousin once removed.

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