Thursday, November 3, 2022

Nellie (nee Fenton) Robicheau, Research Report, the As It Is Series

Copyright 2022, CABS for Reflections From the Fence

This continues a series of posts, done in a very efficient (make that speedy fast-sometimes) manner to share some research on the ancestors.  This is NOT intended to be the end all to end all report.  It's a work in progress, to show you what I have found, right or wrong. Kind feedback is welcomed via comments.

Let’s begin - - 

Meet - - Nellie (nee Fenton) Robicheau


Boy hoooodeee, she has been quite the chase.  Let's start by what I am sure of:

Nellie Fenton
 in the 1911 Census of Canada
Name: Nellie Fenton
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Race or Tribe: English
Nationality: Canadian
Age: 7
Birth Date: Feb 1904
Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Census Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Province: Nova Scotia
District: Yarmouth
District Number: 53
Sub-District: 1 - Arcadia
Sub-District Number: 1
Place of Habitation: Arcadia
Religion: Baptist
Other Occupation: NG
Can Read: No
Can Write: No
Language: E.
Family Number: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Fenton 47
Ida Fenton 36
Marray Fenton 12
Mable Fenton 17
Percy Fenton 12
William Fenton 9
Nellie Fenton 7

Nellie has not been found as of November 2022 in the 1921 Canadian Census.

But, let's back up to Nellie's birth record.  Have not found one.  

And, now the mystery thickens.  The next few paragraphs are in blue because they are research done to "disprove" a theory.  Let's begin, it's a bit messy.

There are some researchers that feel Nellie was not the child of William and Ida (nee) Jarvis Fenton.  They suggest that Nellie was born Oct 27, 1896,  County Harbor, Guysborough, Nova Scotia, Canada.  I found the delayed birth certificate of this Nellie, she is still living as of 1961, married to a McFarlane, or similar last name, and names a mother of  "Carrie Fenton". 

Was Nellie (born 1896) an adopted child of William and Ida?  I kept an open mind, and considered it as possible, they had adopted two of their parent-less grandchildren.  UNTIL I researched Carrie Fenton, Nellie's (born 1896) mother. Carrie was also known as Caroline Fenton.  Carrie/Caroline married in 1901 and died in 1902.  

However, before marriage Caroline was still living with her parents in the 1901 census.  According to that 1901 census, Nellie (born 1896), was living in the same household as Carrie/Caroline. Nellie is listed as a "daughter" of the head of household. Caroline was also shown as a "daughter".   Nellie as a "daughter" becomes suspect if you had seen her delayed birth certificate and the other evidence I have uncovered.

Nellie was also in the 1911 census, again listed as a daughter.  By 1921 she was a young bride with some babies of her own.  This Nellie, born 1896 is NOT the Nellie that married John Robicheau in 1921.   See below my sig line for the delayed birth certificate of the Nellie born 1896, and index information on those census enumerations.

Indeed, we have two Nellie Fentons, living in the same province, born within 8 years (give or take) of each other.   And, so, we now go back to discussing the Nellie Fenton Robicheau who is our person of interest.

I still have not found a birth record for Nellie born 1904.  As a matter of interest, the Nova Scotia archives site does not allow for a first name only search, yea, I tried that too.  

I find Nellie's (born 1904ish) marriage to John, they were married in late 1921.


I have not found birth record of her children, Ida, Victor or Nellie, as the wonderful Nova Scotia archives vitals web site does not include births after 1920, as the publication date of this this blog post.  

I did find her death certificate tho - - 


I have created a Find A Grave memorial for Nellie, # 245154833.  I have no obituary for her, yet.

Her hubby's history after her death is problematic.  Some researchers feel it is the John who has a Find A Grave memorial # 139067582.  If you visit you will see a photo of a headstone.  You will also note that he has a AKA inscribed on that headstone, that being William Edward Surette.  William also has his own Find A Grave memorial, see #  139067541.  Long searches for John and or William have turned up little.  I did find a second marriage for "a" John, in 1929, to one Lettie or Lottie  Bengay (her name was a bit difficult to read, so, the disclaimer is, her name might be something else). I found nothing on Lettie/Lottie either.  I will repeat the searches, of course, because, hey, it's research, and stuff shows up when or where you least likely expect it to.  

Research on her children has been difficult as well.  We shall leave that for future research and/or reports here on Reflections.  Except for this one tidbit- - I have been told by an elder of the family that her son, Victor Robicheau, was raised by a Fenton grandfather or uncle and is buried as Victor John Fenton, Find A Grave memorial # 225423463.  I have verified with the cemetery that Victor John Fenton is the son of one John Robicheau, per their records.

And, yes, this week's research has left me drooling in anticipation of the 1931 Canadian census public release in or about June 2023.  Boy, whooooeee, do I have questions.


* Disclaimers, I use Find A Grave, Ancestry dot com, FamilySearch, several newspaper subscriptions, free sites, such as Virginia Chronicles, Virginia Chancery Cases online at the Library of Virginia and more to research my ancestors.  I pay for subscriptions, full price.

** My judgements may or may not be correct.  Transcriptions may or may not have errors.

*** Links, URL's, for the most part will not be included henceforth on my posts, as so many of them change and then I have to come back and try to re-discover and relink.  Frankly folks, I have no desire to spend my limited time here on this side of the sod with those kinds of do overs.  As researchers, or just members of the internet community, sites such as Find A Grave are easy to find, some are free to use and with the information I am sharing with you, hopefully, you can duplicate the research/findings. That said, I have seen memorials at Find A Grave be removed.  If you have questions, I suggest you leave a nice comment for me. OR find the method I have outlined on my blog for contacting me.

**** I hope the usual happens, within hours, sometimes minutes, I do another search and something shows up.  Well, I can hope.

***** Nellie Fenton McFarlane, born 1896, still living 1961, delayed birth certificate, is not our gal.


We find both Nellie and her mother on the 1901 census:
Caroline Fenton
in the 1901 Census of Canada
Name: Caroline Fenton
Gender: Female
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Nationality: Canadian
Marital Status: Single
Age: 23
Birth Date: 2 Jan 1877
Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Religion: Presbyterian
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
Province: Nova Scotia
District: Guysborough
District Number: 32
Sub-District: Goshen
Sub-District Number: 1
Family Number: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William H Fenton  52 Head ** Grandfather, my note
Elizabeth Fenton  46 Wife  ** Grandmother, my note
Caroline Fenton 23 Daughter  **Mom, aka Carrie Fenton, my note
D C Fenton   22
Michel Fenton   19
Spurgeon Fenton   12
Delles Fenton   6 Daughter
Nellie Fenton   4 Daughter  Born ca 1896

(Carrie marries 1901, then, dies 1902.  See her Find A Grave memorial # 179723563.)

Nellie Fanton
 in the 1911 Census of Canada
Name: Nellie Fanton
[Nellie Fenton] 
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Race or Tribe: English
Nationality: Canadian
Age: 13
Birth Date: Oct 1897
Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Census Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Province: Nova Scotia
District: Guysborough
District Number: 44
Sub-District: 9
Sub-District Number: 9
Place of Habitation: Goshen
Religion: Baptist
Occupation: None
Other Occupation: NG
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Language: E.
Family Number: 71
Household Members:
Name Age
William H Fanton 62  ** Grandfather, my note
Dallis Fanton 15
Nellie Fanton 13

As a young bride:
Nellie Farlane
in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: Nellie Farlane
Gender: Female
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Nationality: Canada
Marital Status: Married
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1897
Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Residence Date: 1 Jun 1921
House Number: 301
Residence Street or Township: Marie St
Residence City, Town or Village: Stellarton Ward 3
Residence District: Pictou
Residence Province or Territory: Nova Scotia
Residence Country: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Farlane
Father Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Mother Birth Place: Nova Scotia
Can Speak English?: Yes
Can Speak French?: No
Religion: Methodist
Can Read?: Yes
Can Write?: Yes
Municipality: Stellarton
Enumeration District: 62
Sub-District: Stellarton
Sub-District Number: 56
Enumerator: Thomas B Mahoney
District Description: Ward 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Line Number: 45
Family Number: 301
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
William Farlane    24 Head
Nellie Farlane 24 Wife
William Farlane    3 Son
John Farlane    1 Son

My research of Nellie (born 1896), and her mother, Carrie/Caroline cease here.
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